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Dear Davey Havok...

I was recently reading your interview in the awful music magazine I receive once every two weeks (it's a free subscription), and I came upon this little gem:

Did you get drunk once and then realize it wasn't for you?

Actually, no I've never been drunk in my life. I've never even had like a beer. It never really appealed to me. That culture was just very unappealing and I never wanted to be part of it. I just saw how people acted and treated each other. And I was just like ''that is not for me.'' And I also thought of it as something very civilian. It seemed like the mandatory recreation for civilians. I thought, ''If alcohol makes you do this, I want no part. I want nothing in common with these people.'' That's when I was fifteen

I'd like to respond to a few things, regarding that quote, and other things I've noticed about you lately. First, what the fuck is up with your face and hair now a days. I remember in the video for Total Immortal, you at least looked a little bit tough. Of course, you looked like a direct rip off of Glen Danzig, but I guess if you're going to jack someone's style, at least make it that of one of the best punk singers ever. Now I see this picture of you you (one posted here isn't even it, but this is almost as bad), and you look like one of Good Charlotte's fifteen year old fans. That's a girl's haircut motherfucker, and I'm pretty sure it's a girl's shirt too. You absolutely SHOULD drink, becuase you are the kind of girl any lucky, drunken guy would like to take home and ravage after twenty or thirty cans of random swill. You got the prettiest nails on the block.

And as for the drinking comment, I don't know what you mean by calling drinking "very civilian", but I imagine you meant it to mean that the people that drink are lower than you. Using the word civilian here, though, would imply that you are, in fact, in some branch of the armed forces. I fear for my life, and the lives of my family if this is so. It's sandy in Iraq, bro, so make sure to close your legs. Last thing you need is a sandy pussy.

Lastly, I would like to remind you that your music is awful. It was cute when you did all that halloween shit before (and still do), but you know that isn't yours. It's something ELSE you took from the Misfits. If Glen or Doyle even gave enough of a shit about your band to take notice, they'd probably sneeze on you and blow up your overly sized tour bus for stealing their shit, spreading hair dye and makeup all over the land. The fact is, though, they don't give a shit, and neither does anyone else. You are irrelevant when it comes to music now. Your new single is about suicide. Clever. You guys think of that alone, or is it the team of writers, producers, A&R jerks, and old money white guys who came up with this brilliant and innovative concep. I seriously hope it was you guys, because then my idea of what an awful set of crappy musicians you are is totally spot on.

In closing, I would like to hope for you that your album sells well, lest you be dropped from your label, and have to steal to get by. I hope you don't get caught. You'd make someone in jail a real nice piece.
45 Comments in reply to "Dear Davey Havok..."
Ohno! Someone has a different lifestyle and values than yours! Maybe you should sit on your little computer chair and rant unoriginal hate messages at a person you have never met. You narrow-minded little cunt, you know it isn't hard to write condescending prose such as your drivel; your only talent is criticism, and your fucking terrible at it.

You speak as if you are somewhat superior to not only Davey, but to everybody. Another thing I can't seem to understand is why YOU want Davey to look more masculine. Why do you even care what he looks like? As a matter of fact, It wouldn't surprise me if everyone that you have met doesn't like your (obviously) very very masculine appearance. Perhaps it's the ripping six pack, moustache and camo pants. I'm sure you'd wear anything macho just to hide your homosexual insecurities.

If you don't like the album, great, at least you listened to it and made your opinion based on what you heard; everyone%u2019s music taste is different. But don't make judgements on a person you have never met because they have different values and don't look the way 'Men with Guns and Beards Monthly' want you to look.
Posted by freeradicals at Wed, 05 Jul 2006 03:20:03 -0500
And this website is terrible, you can't even use apostrophes without it becoming retarded.
Posted by freeradicals at Wed, 05 Jul 2006 03:24:20 -0500
This is absolutely hillarious. I'm glad it really got you all fired up that I don't like the way Davey Havok looks, and I don't like his band's crappy music. So much so that you did exactly what you were ragging on me for: insulting someone you never met. You're a fucking silly hypocrite who likes crappy music. Sorry for you, bro.

I don't speak as if I'm superior to anyone. I speak as if I think Davey Havok is a fucking tool, and I stand by that. I do take offense to him thinking drinking is "civillian" after never having tried it. That's just stupid. I explained it in the post, I'm not going to explain it again.

As for using apostrophes, I have no problem with it, maybe it's just you.
Posted by Wezzul at Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:14:12 -0500
Also, big up to ranking second page for the query 'Davey Havok' on MSN search. Funny how that happened...

WEZ
Posted by Wezzul at Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:18:31 -0500
Freeradicals, if you ever met wezzul you would know that he is a fat bastard and not some macho meat head... idiot
Posted by shelby at Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:22:06 -0500
Ok well someone thinks they know Davey very well.That is mean of you to do. I am not trying to be mean but, you are sterotyping someone you don't know. He is a great person. That is ok if you don't like him but some do. Don't post you opions if they aren't asked for them.
Who ever said something about apostrophes, they nedd to shutup. Atleast she can type and she doesn't look stupid. Typing in stupid things like brb and lol makes typing to someone boring.
Posted by davey_havok_75 at Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:43:51 -0500
I can't tell if that last post is a joke or what... I mean, come on. At least freeradicals was able to make a coherent sentence (as stupid and hypocritical as it may be)....

As for posting my opinions... it's a fucking BLOG on a domain that I OWN. Where exactly am I supposed to post opinions if I can't post them here....

Sigh.... it must be a joke...

WEZ
Posted by Wezzul at Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:18:48 -0500
I'd bet anything that you are a fan of big, enormous, fake boobs and peroxide blonde anorexics.

Have a nice day.
Posted by bobsaget at Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:37:38 -0600
It's nice to know this post is still getting hits. My search ranking goes up all the time for the query Davey Havok. Hot dinglez.

bobsaget: I bet you like shitty music.

Have a nice day.
Posted by Wezzul at Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:13:53 -0600
I've readed all your comments and stuff here wez, and I think it's hilarious. If you think AFI got crappy music and you obviously hate davey havok (yeah, you made that part really clear..) then why do you even care?? I'm actually begging you to shut the fuck up, cuz I can't read anymore of you're pathetic posts without having compassion with you. Don't you have better things to do than write stupid things about people who are much more interesting then you and your irritating comments are? And about the 'crappy music' thing ; they have worked their fucking asses off and get a lot off shit trough the years, so they don't need you telling them they make crappy music and shit. Get a life.
Posted by ihatewezzul at Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:10:46 -0600
I can understand that you're jealous at Davey Havok ; We all know that he's much more hotter than you will ever be.
Posted by ikk at Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:54:45 -0600
Dear wezzul,
You suck and I don't think I like you...
Posted by YouSuckrr at Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:57:37 -0600
lawlz you people make me laugh. kk, quick note: i think it's kind of defining that Davey doesn't drink. ya know, i have friends with alcoholic parents and now they find it to be relatively repulsive. i'm just saying i can see where he's coming from.

As for the petty argument going on between the punk fans and the afi fans. It's actually a good laugh when you can read the shit everyone says and learn to not take offense to it =D

to wezzul, yeh it is a lil immature to burn someone you don't personally know, and basically for acting acting like a girl and not drinking.

but even moreso for the retards who take such offense to insult against davey havok. You are not him, you shouldn't defend him like you are him. Even HE doesn't take this much offense to insults himself. so maybe you should shut yerr yapps as well.

seriously how juvenile can people get??
**quotes YouSuckrr**
Dear Wezzul,
you suck and i dont think i like you...
l-o-fucking-l

keep up the work my good sirs at pissing each other off
But really everyone thanks for the laughs =D
Posted by tehmatty at Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:30:08 -0600
This post continues to rank on google. Most recently first page for "Davey havok hair". How cute!

I like how you guys get mad, and tell me to get a life and all that other boring shit. Like, I'm not the one that came here on a search for "davey havok hair". I need to get a life? You are googling that pony's hair!

I'll continue to enjoy this post! Thanks for all the memories!
Posted by Wezzul at Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:31:47 -0600
hm...as much as i hate afi and as ridiculous as his fringe is you really shouldnt bother creating a site just to piss of their fans and waste your own time. hate the people supporting them if anything.

theyre an A list band so they must be good to get that far, so leave it.
x
Posted by yazzie at Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:25:32 -0600
hm...as much as i hate afi and as ridiculous as his fringe is you really shouldnt bother creating a site just to piss of their fans and waste your own time. hate the people supporting them if anything.

theyre an A list band so they must be good to get that far, so leave it.
x
Posted by yazzie at Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:25:33 -0600
It's not like I created a site dedicated to AFI. I just made a post about it, and started getting hits on google.

As for them being an A-List band, and therefore, being a good band, Nickelback is A-list. Creed was A-list. My Chemical Romance is A-list. All those bands are awful shit. They are where they are because a record company put them there, not because they are any good anymore...

WEZ
Posted by Wezzul at Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:36:45 -0600
Hmm... I can see where he is coming from with the drinking is mandatory recreation for civilians oppinion. Look at 1984 with 'Victory Gin' a form of control over the population by giving people a little piece of recreation that happens to be a psychoactive drug and a depressant. People are considered wierd for not drinking yet getting wrecked on alcohol till your ill is the norm. I have to say I would rather be the sober outcast than another "normal" person that finds the only way to be sociable is through the use of a drug. Ahh well.
Posted by ElectronicTalking at Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:58:22 -0600
That's not the point though. The point is that he is looking down his nose at those people, without having experienced it at all. The way he comes off in the article is that he is better than those that drink or get drunk, when in fact, he isn't.

WEZ
Posted by Wezzul at Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:27:07 -0500
"The way he comes off in the article is that he is better than those that drink or get drunk, when in fact, he isn't."

Actually, Davey was just stating that the lifestyle wasn't for him, not that he was better than those other people. Read into the facts before you start making judgements. Oh, and you afi fans need to calm down. As much as I like the band and the music, you don't need to rush to the defense of someone you don't really know. It's embarrasing. wezzul, i'm glad you spend all of your time trying to piss people off, but you need to spend less time judging people. Oh, and one more thing... SHUT THE FUCK UP DISSING MCR!!! Okay, i'm calm now...

Posted by xsxexchick at Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:48:13 -0500
I'm not judging him, I'm going by the words that came out of his mouth. That's all. He said it was very "civilian" to be drinking which, besides not making any sense, seems to be his way of looking down on people who drink. You can do whatever you like, I don't give a damn, but don't think you are all high and mighty because you don't do something that lots of other people do.

WEZ
Posted by Wezzul at Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:01:59 -0500
Everyone needs to stop reacting to this post as if it's beeen written about them. If you don't like it, don't read it. End of story.
Posted by jelly belly at Thu, 05 Apr 2007 14:03:29 -0500
Although I basically disagree, I can see where Wezzul's coming from. And before I lose my thought, I'd like to state that anyone who can't express their current mind in a literate way needs to stop acting like they know exactly what their talking about. Most people cannot understand you with your "IMPOS" and "cux isaidso". That's just pathetic. I think it's two different things: You can like the music, or you can like the image. I think people are really getting screwed up over what Davey looks like, because it really doesn't matter. That's one way he expresses himself, whether its girly or kiddish, or whatever. Stop hashing over the same shit. If you like the music, than you like the music. You can buy the Cd's and be the end of it. No fangirl searches, no looking up waht branmd of eyeliner he wears. (gag me.) Just..yeah. Of course Davey has the right to look down upon people who drink, because it is his retrospect. He can do whatever he likes in his own freaking head. Same thing about other issues, like homesexuality, racism and such. I can't help but noticing the 'you are entitled to your own opinion posts' yet everyone is discrediting his. It just seems a touc hypocritical don't you think?
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Do they not have good music in Bumblefuck, PA, or wherever you live, Wezzul? You seem to think most bands are crapy. That's just a vibe. Mainstream music is still the same soulless beast its always been, and underground music is a playground for the insincere. WHAT ARE WE TO DO?

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Looks like everybody took their immaturity pill today.
Posted by Let'sgohomeanddie at Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:22:46 -0500
wow your a fucking douch. just cause davey doesnt have a gun rack and a pick up truck doesnt mean your better than him...your an ignorant peice of shit...oohh iraq has sand in it? nice observation. did you see that on dicovery channel? your such an asshole. davey havok is exttremely talented..what are you good at? hunting 'coons? ranting from your "home office" alright then captain fuck face. you keep your opinion about davey havok. but lots of people think hes amazing..as you may have noticed.so if his being straight edge offends you...are you pretty proud to be a fucking alcaholic or something? hes got a good point. everyone drinks and they get so fucked up and do shit they regret later. if he doesnt wanna be a part of that thats his own choice. who the fuck are you to judge a guy on that? especially someone you know nothign about....so again...captain fuck face. keep your opinions. they dont mean shit to us
Posted by killcaustic at Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:46:01 -0500
im also kinda curious...have you been to iraq big guy? you all tough army man? support our troops bumper sticker maybe? and what are you doing about it...sitting at home on the computer making fun of a famous guy. by the way...something is pretty fucked up about that picture...thats not what daveys make up looks like ever..and that doesnt even look like his face...looks like well you were at home surfing porn...you probly learned to work photoshop pretty good...im assuming this is so that you can paste george dubyas head on your naked fantasy girlfriends body and jack off...ok well enjoy douche bag
Posted by killcaustic at Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:57:30 -0500
One worth responding to. Killcaustic is just some silly ass kid who can't type a complete sentence, and has to resort to cute little insults cause he ain't got shit else to say. Amateur hour my friend, amateur hour.

They have lots of good music here. The Stooges are from around here, for one. Probably one of the best bands in history as far as rock goes. Certainly one of the most influential. I think his appearance is shit, and I think AFI's music is shit now too. Like I said, it used to be ok, it's just not very good anymore.

He can think whatever the fuck he wants about anything, but I have every right to say that I think what he thinks is silly shit, right? Just as he, or I, or you can have an opinion, he, or I, or you can have an opinion about someone else's opinion. I'm not trying to take away his ability to have one, I'm just saying I think it's narrow minded and childish.

I can't believe this post still gets hits.
Posted by Wezzul at Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:35:43 -0500
ahah im not a silly ass kid you fucking douche. see this - ......... these little dots complete my sentence for fuck sakes. anyways you ignored half the points i made just to say im "just some silly ass kid who can't type a complete sentence, and has to resort to cute little insults cause he ain't got shit else to say. " so...please...actually respond to my points instead of trying to just brush it off. anyways your picture of davey is a sham. thats called clever photoshopping...find a recent picture of him and compare his face...but yea! way to brush off half the shit i said.
Posted by killcaustic at Wed, 20 Jun 2007 04:52:23 -0500
I wouldn't waste the time photoshopping that douche. That one doesn't look half as stupid as the one that was in that issue of rolling stone. Found it on google, you probably can too.

You didn't make any points. You just tried to insult me (childishly, I might add).

Read the post above your most recent one, it sums up my feelings on the only part of your posts that wasn't an insult about me having a "gun rack" or being in the iraq war.

The drinking thing is just funny. He can say whatever he likes about it, sure, and I can say whatever I like about it, and whatever I like about what he said. I think he's a closed minded prick, sure. I think straight edge is a personal choice, but it certainly isn't for me, or a lot of people. Those people are just as good as people that drink. Not everyone gets drunk and does things they regret, that's a broad (and inaccurate) generalization.

WEZ
Posted by Wezzul at Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:04:58 -0500
i dont understand how you can tell me you drink and dont get loaded...thats the purpose of drinking. I just dont see how you can take what he said so seriously. He really has his right to be SXE and by "civilian" he just meant everone drinks. Anyone at all. and hes not saying hes better than anyone hes just saying that he is going to choose to be different i think its kind of stupid that you respond to that and make fun of him in so many ways...thats why you pissed people off..it wasnt about SXE stuff anymore...it was about a stupid fucked up photoshopped picture and how you think he has a cunt...
Posted by killcaustic at Fri, 22 Jun 2007 05:09:09 -0500
I still think he's a cunt. The picture still isn't photoshopped. AFI still makes shitty music.

Lots of people drink because they like the taste. For instance, those that drink craft beer or wine aren't drinking "to get loaded". Just because your 17 year old friends are drinking natty ice deucers out of a brown paper bag doesn't mean everyone is as silly.

The way he said shit in the interview is in a way that seems to look down the nose at people. You may not think so, really, I don't give a damn.

WEZ
Posted by Wezzul at Mon, 25 Jun 2007 10:50:22 -0500
sure thats true that some people drink for taste..but the majority at which davey is maybe " pointing his finger at" are alcaholics or people who just wanna get plastered for fun. so i have to ask you. which category do you fall into?
Posted by killcaustic at Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:15:38 -0500
It doesn't matter which category I fall into, that's not relevant to the discussion (I absolutely drink for taste though, I enjoy craft beer quite a bit -- not to say I don't get hammered, I certainly have and do, and find nothing wrong with that). You can't really say one way or the other who he is talking about with his statement as he doesn't qualify it at all. You are putting words in his mouth now.

Also, what is an alcaholic?

WEZ
Posted by Wezzul at Tue, 03 Jul 2007 10:45:59 -0500
ok let me tell you this you stupid igoreint mother fucker you cocksucking ass from hell what the fuck is your fucking problem ok just b/c davey doesn't like to drink and the way he wears doesn't mean you have to be an ass about how would you like it if someone was talking shit about u and posted on the fucking internet and i'm a huge afi fan you sorry mother fucker right now i feel like slapping the shit out of you right now ass wipe you need to respect about other people and you realize people have feelings dumbass god why do you have to be such a fucking bitch message me if u want if not i don't give a damn go to hell you afi hater.
Posted by morgan at Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:46:10 -0500
oh one more thing for the people who say mean things about davey fuck ya'll too assholes.
Posted by morgan at Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:49:36 -0500
oh if you want to message me message me on my myspace my email is mogichic@yahoo.com bye:~
Posted by morgan at Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:59:54 -0500
IM N UR MYSPACEZ, BEIN ALL UR FRIENDZ

...idiot

WEZ
Posted by Wezzul at Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:41:52 -0500
theres nuthing wrong with drinking..im not putting words in his mouth i just understand where hes coming from...he is pointing his finger at the slummy ass people who sit on the street outside a bar with a hat asking for change just so they can get drunk again...people who cannot face reality so just fuck themselves up to ignore it. which IS very civilian...are you going to say that you cant place yourself above people like that? he is above that or we wouldnt hear so much about him obviousley...shit happens and yea people fuck up and thats their own fault...when he says its civillian hes not saying EVERYONE IS A DUMB FUCKING ALCAHOLIC just anybody can be in the bar getting loaded...im sure he wasnt subjected to "people who drink for taste" when he was younger...more like an alcaholic relative who beat the shit out of his wife everynight and stumbled to the bar every afternoon until his liver faield or someshit...i mean you really didnt think of what he ment to well and your calling him closeminded...again you took your one point and expanded it too a whole new level just to say wadda fag he has a vag and that hes wearing a chick shirt...if you had initially took this a little more maturley you wouldnt have gotten the hate mail...point is. if you said...i disagree with what he says and gave the same reasons youve been giving me with out attacking everything elser about him people might have seen a valid argument instead of calling you an ignorant cunt. Sure your not an alcaholic or neccesarily a person who gets loaded and causes shit but im sure thats exactley who hes saying he doesnt wanna be like...i have to admit after this i do disagree with his wording (i.e "civilian") nonethe less i think you blew it way outta proportion and attacked him in ways that werent necessary. so i admit my first few posts were also pretty childish but you arent above the bar yourself initially...and now your starting to get a valid argument...minus calling him a cunt...morgan...your a fucking idiot...would it make you happier to suck daveys cock till hes happy? he is pretty flaming or at least bi...as much as i hate to say it. people are gunna talk shit about him all the time and you can respond with the shit you came up with
Posted by killcaustic at Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:37:33 -0500
This shit is honestly hilarious....OMG DON'T PUT DOWN DAVEY HAVOK!!! shut the fuck up....the dude stated an opinion and then you little fucking bigots chime in with your "opinion" in a stfu fucker way. And about the guy who was like "o shit ya dragged mcr into it" dude seriously go cut yourself. I go to prove a point to a buddy of mine that yes infact he was a danzig clone and then a cock rammed him in the ass and afi turned into wtfever they are now. Either way I was laughing my ass off at this shit and the reactions you morons throw out. It's like you all hope davey sees it and sucks your fucking cock for it. They had some decent music when they first came out and then whatever changed the direction of the band into a fucking pile of dog shit. As far as the alcohol deal...he did sound liek he was looking down on those who drank, maybe if he worded it in a different way he wouldnt come off as an arrogant piece of shit who knows? So the dude wears makeup and dresses like a late night hooker whatever thats his deal. As for his fans honestly read over all the shit ya typed you constantly attack Wezzul over his opinion then try to force feed your opinion down his throat. Then rip on him for not enjoying afi (and they do suck). Btw "igoreint" did ya mean ignorant? Or are you just a fucking knob? amazing job, great reading material I haven't laughed this hard in days.
Posted by Indy at Tue, 17 Jul 2007 03:25:16 -0500
Indy hit the nail on the head. AFI was once an alright band. I enjoy the Misfits and seeing as how they were very similar, I enjoyed their earlier stuff. But seriously, WTF happened? First Davey looks like Danzig, then suddenly like Michael Jackson? Someone explain to me how anything Davey is doing is cool. Honestly. Dressing like a Tranny and singing like your balls are shoved up your ass was pretty gay last time I checked.
Posted by Draz at Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:23:28 -0500
Wow, this post just keeps fucking going. It's pretty goddamn amazing.

WEZ
Posted by Wezzul at Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:47:35 -0500
It may be dead now... perhaps google stopped indexing it...
Posted by wezzul at Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:59:43 -0500
This is absolutely nuts! I can't get over how much attention this page got.

This is a little embarrassing... I feel like I've been lumped into the "hump Davey's leg, and cut myself to MCR" group.

Not a category I want to be involved with.

I think I should have just ignored your comment in the first place... you're just too insignificant mate.

I think the fan-girls need to take it easy and I think anyone spewing hatred needs to focus on things less negative. It's not healthy

Posted by freeradicals at Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:49:04 -0500
o.k. I've been there. So drunk that I couldn't remember shit. Only later to learn how stupid I acted. I've also sat around very sober and watched other people get drunk and act ignorant. And I honestly have to say it was a big eye opener for me. You can insult Davey all you want but the man has actually saved my life through his music and his opinions. So until you make a big and great impact on someone shut up.
Posted by dark angel at Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:23:17 -0500
He saved your life with his music? How exactly did that happen?

WEZ
Posted by Wezzul at Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:48:21 -0600
Fuck you killaccustic.
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